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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 11:05:04 GMT -5
While Herget certainly belongs to the Mets still, this is a great reminder that starting tomorrow at 10am ET, there are players that will need to be picked up or risk losing them along with cash!
With that said, I think it is time to declare that 3-day requirement should NOT apply during the pre-season. Please reconsider this rule.
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Post by Giants (Adam) on Mar 18, 2023 12:25:46 GMT -5
Personally, I still think we should have a deadline still in the pre-season. Doesn't need to be a time period so much, maybe a date for all preseason free agents to be picked up. Perhaps something closer to opening day? Just my thoughts.
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Post by Brewers (Kyle) on Mar 18, 2023 12:53:07 GMT -5
The league is correct. I am incorrect. I will drop him now.
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Post by Orioles (Rook) (Commish) on Mar 18, 2023 15:40:32 GMT -5
It’s a rule certainly to discuss for next year. Rodger our sister league Commish and I disagree (from memory, I hope LOL) If I remember correctly he feels current rule is fine. I think the harshness of a full buyout is extreme. It’s easy to forget especially at this time of year with bidding flying around rapid fire. Suppose you forget a $8/4 player. That kills your cap for the year. I think that’s too harsh. I think a max cap on the buyout of maybe up to say $3 to $5 along with a $1 penalty is better.
As far as extending roster limits until opening day, I don’t like that. That would be incentive for a manager with lots of extra preseason cap to load up on extra players. I don’t like the potential hoarding of players. The original league going on 10 years has our same rule and has been running just fine.
Others thought?
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Post by Dodgers (Matt) on Mar 18, 2023 17:28:31 GMT -5
I personally would be in favor of extending the period to pickup winning FA's in the offseason. Especially with how long teams take to put players on IL during spring training. Just as an example based on my team, I have Shane Baz and Brendan Rodgers who are out for the year but have yet to be put on IL. I'm trying to sign players to replace them in FA but shouldn't be penalized because they aren't yahoo IL eligible yet. With our current rule I either have to cut players I need/want to be legal, or I have to wait till the end of FA when my guys finally get put on the IL and there's no one left to write home about.
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Post by Mariners (Chris) on Mar 18, 2023 18:02:02 GMT -5
I personally don't like any rule amendment that could potentially make managers lazy. I like the current 3 days pickup requirement, and extended period will only cause late updates for everything. In case of the long-term injury, we could make an exception like the suspension rule.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 18:53:02 GMT -5
The sooner players are added to rosters the better, agreed. I would just prefer a friendly reminder be given in pre-season rather than harsh penalties. In the regular season its a bit different, so I understand more.
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Post by Brewers (Kyle) on Mar 18, 2023 18:59:11 GMT -5
I agree with Mariners.
Pushing out just because you're waiting on an IL could be waiting until opening day.
I also agree that we could make an ammendment that if you can prove the player is done for the year (or will certainly be on the60 day IL...i.e.tommy John surgery, expected back in August at the earliest). Than you can drop the player.
Thoughts to think about for next off-season atthe earliest.
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Post by Rays (Brett) on Mar 18, 2023 19:42:16 GMT -5
I don’t see why we would want to track all of those circumstances with players not yet placed on the IL. I’m dealing with a similar issue with Nick Pratto, but he hasn’t been sent down instead of being place on the IL. I could argue an exception like the one proposed for players not yet on the IL
I agree that the potential for abuse is more of a concern in the regular season. While cap room does limit some negatives, it wouldn’t prevent loading up in free agency and trading before the start of the season deadline.
Maybe add an and additional day and adjust the penalty? Maybe a % of cap?
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Post by White Sox (Rodger) on Mar 20, 2023 9:34:39 GMT -5
I actually think we could relax the rule during the off season a little, but to what I don't know? It's definitely worth a discussion especially if the long term injury or demotion can be proven.
But once the MLB season starts I think we stick to the 72 hour rule???
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Post by Brewers (Kyle) on Mar 20, 2023 11:34:16 GMT -5
Yes, during the season, we'll hold true to the rules.
We can discuss next off season, but my viewpoint is kept he rules the same in- & off- season, less confusion.
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Post by White Sox (Rodger) on Mar 20, 2023 14:50:37 GMT -5
Maybe no forced buyout during the off season just a $1 cap penalty?
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Post by Astros (Mike) on Mar 20, 2023 15:44:13 GMT -5
No, then you’ll get people throwing around crazy money to keep bids active knowing there’s little to no penalty for just casting the player aside after they realize they’ve spent too much on too many players.
I don’t feel bad for people who have to pay the forced buyout. 72 hours is plenty of time to add the player. What happens is you get owners who already have 26 players they like and then they want to bid on another guy.
It’s simple, if you already have 26 players, then don’t bid unless you know for sure you are prepared to waive or buyout someone already on the roster.
The injury thing where you have to wait to IL a player is kind of a raw deal but we all deal with it.
I would leave the rules how they are and enforce the buyouts without worrying about the team involved. They were the one placing the bids. If they are that excited about the player, then they’ll pick him up within 72 hours.
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Post by White Sox (Rodger) on Mar 20, 2023 16:04:13 GMT -5
All fair points.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 16:23:18 GMT -5
I concur with Mike and Rodger nothing wrong with the rule just some guys trying to horde up more players if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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